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Concurrent Operations - Remaining Labor Hours


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This issue I am seeing is in IFS Cloud 24R1 both SU 10 and SU 11.  We have noticed a issue with our Remaining Labor Hours and Remaining Man Hours in IFS when having Shop Order Operations running concurrently.  For example, employee clocks onto Shop Order A and Shop Order B, because both are on the same machine (say a Laser or Press Brake).  Each Shop Order has 20 hours per unit planned, and Lot Size of 1, so 20 hours total planned on the Operation.  Employee works for a total of 10 hours for the day, clocked to both Shop Order A and Shop Order B at the same time (concurrent operations).  

 

Now, after clocking out for the day, IFS will apply 10 Machine Hours on each Shop Order Operation, so the Remaining Machine Time for each Shop Order is 10 hrs.  And, for each Shop Order, it will take the employees Man Hours and divide it by two (as employee was on 2 Ops at the same time all day), so each Shop Order gets 5 Man Hours reported.  But, in Report Operations, it will show the full 10 hours of Labor Time applied. This all makes sense.  10 hours of Machine Time and 10 hours of Labor Time, but only 5 Man Hours of cost, as the employee’s labor cost is split between 2 jobs. 

 

The item that doesn’t make sense is that the Remaining Labor Time and Remaining Man Hours doesn’t add up.  As mentioned, each Shop Order above would show a Reported Machine Time and Reported Labor Time of 10 hours, and a Reported Man Hours of 5 hours.  So, I would expect that the Remaining Machine Time and Remaining Labor Time would be 10 hours, and Remaining Man Hours would be 15 hours.  But, instead, the Remaining Labor Time is only subtracting the Reported Man Hours, not the Reported Labor Time, and so the Remaining Labor Time and Remaining Man Hours are both 15 hours.  As such, now my Remaining Machine Time and Remaining Labor Time are no longer equal.  

 

Is there a setting somewhere in IFS to fix this?  If not, this needs to be addressed and fixed in an upcoming SU.  

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  • Do Gooder (Customer)
  • 8 replies
  • May 2, 2025

Here are a couple snapshots showing and example.  Meant to attach these to the above.


Yathartha Karunananda
Hero (Employee)
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Hi ​@evanspa3,

What is the option you have selected in '’Base Remaining Hours On'’ in this work center?

The remaining labor time calculation in dependent on that:

 


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  • Do Gooder (Customer)
  • 8 replies
  • May 27, 2025

Most of our sites use Base Remaining Hours on Remaining Time, as many of our sites will have a Shop Order with a Lot Size of 1 pcs for 200+hrs.  This makes using Remaining Quantity invalid (this only works at our sites that are running high-volume mass production).


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