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Public Holiday Compensation Schedule - Time Card, Insert Time

  • November 21, 2024
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ttzeleznik
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Greetings Community, 

IFS 10 UDP16 - IEE

We are using “Public Holiday Compensation Schedule” assigned to each employee (“Employee Schedule and Rules”).  A question came in from HR….  What drives (triggers) WHEN the Holiday (Value Type = Fixed) is inserted on an employee’s time card?  I’ve looked in all the usual places:  Schedules DB Tasks,  Company Details, ….

Thanks and Happy Holidays!

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ttzeleznik
Sidekick (Customer)
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  • November 21, 2024

Not giving up, we finally determined this job, “Calculate Unprocessed Timrep Intervals,” inserts the Holiday time after the day’s regular hours are past (after a normal day would have been completed).  We run this job every 30 minutes.


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  • Hero (Customer)
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  • December 30, 2024

Hi ​@ttzeleznik, I hope you are well. I am looking for some help on this topic, I was hopeful you could help me. 

I am using IFS Cloud 23R2,UP11 and am having some problems with the Public Holiday Compensation (PHC) day types and schedules working.

Just so I understand, do you know, or can someone confirm, is it supposed to work like this. 

  • Employee has a schedule, 5 days, 8 hours per day, 
  • Substitute schedule is created that lists the holidays with a day type of 0 hours. 
  • Substitute schedule is linked to the Cycle Schedule. 
  • In employee time card - shows as a “Day Off”
  • Absences booked over these days do not count as “days taken” 

Then you create the PHC Day Type,  this is designed to put an entry in the employee results the wage code that you define, and the amount of hours can be defined as Fixed and a number entered, or Calculated, if it is calculated, then the Calculation Wage Code Name is entered. 

Once the PHC day types are created, the PHC schedule is created, and this contains the holidays, that also exist on the substitute schedule. The PHC day type is added here. 

Nightly, the Generate Timrep Intervals and Hours background job should run, and maybe, with the Calculate Unprocessed Timrep Intervals,” background job, the time card should be populated with the wage code defined in the PHC Day Type. 

I am struggling to get this to work as I want.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. 

David.

 


ttzeleznik
Sidekick (Customer)
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  • December 30, 2024

Hi ​@david.harmer,

We are not using Substitute schedule at all.  For our Holidays, we have the two tabs completed:  

The PHC schedule is attached to each employee (maybe something better than one-to-one??)

I believe the Substitute schedule is an alternate working schedule; expecting a clocking, i.e., work.

The PHC has the effect of “completing the day” because it is a non-working day and populated as noted above ( “Calculate Unprocessed Timrep Intervals” ).

What helped me get through this was “Zooming” to the Day Type from:

  1. PHC Schedule
  2. Substitute schedule

They each take you to a different Day Type type.  The first, a holiday day type; the second, a working day type with the usual time schedule intervals….

Hope this helps


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  • Hero (Customer)
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  • December 31, 2024

Thanks ​@ttzeleznik , I followed your screen shots, thank you. 

What I found (in Cloud 23R2 at least) is that if you remove the substitute schedule from the cycle schedule, and only have the PHC in place, then the  “Calculate Unprocessed Timrep Intervals” will create the day type as specified on the PHC day type, according to the PHC schedule. If you used fixed, it will do the fixed number from PHC Day Type, or calculated, will do whatever the hours for the calculated wage code was. 

What I have found though is the “Generate Timrep Intervals and Hours”  background job will also create the employee results according to the PHC setup, but it also creates an additional entry for the Normal Time, or whatever was specified on the day being processed.

If the “Generate Timerep...”  is run after the “Calculate Unprocessed...”  then it will also create the additional set of results. 

The reason I used the Substitute schedule was based on the help guide, for “Enter Public Holiday Compensation Schedule”, which says:

  • The dates registered in the PHC schedule must also be registered in the substitute schedule that is linked to the working hours schedule.   

I dont quite have what I want, but at least now it is clear to me what / how the Results are getting added with relation to the PHC Setup. 


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