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I am seeking a solution to manage shop orders in a production workflow where parts are built, tuned, and tested. The process should allow for a dynamic flow such that:

  1. Operation 10: Approved → Progress to Operation 20
  2. Operation 20: Approved → Progress to Operation 30
  3. Operation 30: Approved → Progress to Operation 40
  4. Operation 40: If a failure is detected during testing, the part should be reset and moved back to Operation 20 for reprocessing.

Best answer by Björn Hultgren

You can update the Operation Qty from Shop Floor Workbench for operations with Manual Operation Qty enabled. The quantity can even be set to 0 to indicate none of the parts had to pass through this operation. However, it is unfortunately not possible to set the Manual Operation Qty in a manufacturing routing (only repair, disassembly and remanufacturing). So either you can have standard operations with this option enabled that you add to the shop orders where needed, or you need some small CRIM to enable the Manual Operation Qty on these operations on the shop order automatically

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Björn Hultgren
Hero (Employee)
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Maybe not perfect, but could be an idea to add Operation 50 as a reprocessing of operation 20 and Operation 60 as a Reprocessing of Operation 30. Then depending on the the result of the testing you can manually updating the Operation Quantity of operation 50 and 60 to reflect the number of items that needs to be reworked.

 


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  • Do Gooder (Customer)
  • January 27, 2025
Björn Hultgren wrote:

Maybe not perfect, but could be an idea to add Operation 50 as a reprocessing of operation 20 and Operation 60 as a Reprocessing of Operation 30. Then depending on the the result of the testing you can manually updating the Operation Quantity of operation 50 and 60 to reflect the number of items that needs to be reworked.

 

Hey, thank you for your response! That’s essentially the outcome we’re aiming for, but we’d like to achieve it with reduced human intervention, possibly even from workbench. Additionally, we want to try  maintain consistent formatting for reporting purposes.


Björn Hultgren
Hero (Employee)
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You can update the Operation Qty from Shop Floor Workbench for operations with Manual Operation Qty enabled. The quantity can even be set to 0 to indicate none of the parts had to pass through this operation. However, it is unfortunately not possible to set the Manual Operation Qty in a manufacturing routing (only repair, disassembly and remanufacturing). So either you can have standard operations with this option enabled that you add to the shop orders where needed, or you need some small CRIM to enable the Manual Operation Qty on these operations on the shop order automatically


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  • Do Gooder (Customer)
  • January 31, 2025

Hey Thank you, Will investigate the operations quantity as it seems like that may be a viable solution


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  • Do Gooder (Partner)
  • February 3, 2025

I had to do a CRIM for one of my clients for a similar scenario.
In there instance, when we stepped back from a particular operation ( they can even go back to operation 10 from operation 40) - all the succeeding operations would require to have the completed quantities to be reduced by the qty which was stepped back. We additionally made sure to convert all those operations to rework, so that we would be able to capture time as rework, for any time reported from there onwards


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