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How are we supposed to deal with the 'begins with' nature of the search in Cloud?

  • January 24, 2025
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No matter what in IFS Cloud the search is a ‘begins with’ and it returns incorrect results.  Here’s an example of this…

When you search IFS Cloud does a begins with search no matter what.  In this case I need to update all the equipment at condition-monitoring sites with the maintenance strategy.

I make this search string containing the (41) Object IDs that need to be updated.

VS-07;VS-06;VS-03;SE-01;RC-03;PU-56;PU-55;PU-53;PU-51;PU-50;PU-21;PU-11;PU-109;GF-04;FA-07;DC-07;BL-18;BL-14;BL-08;BL-07;BL-06;BL-04;BC-99;BC-74;BC-73;BC-72;BC-71;BC-66;BC-47;BC-44;BC-38;BC-37;BC-32;BC-28;BC-27;BC-26;BC-25;BC-123;BC-122;BC-12;BC-11

Because of the ‘begins with’ functionality I get (44) results because IFS Cloud also returns PU-1101, PU-111 and PU-21 when it should only return PU-11 and PU-21.  The yellow items shouldn’t show up.

 

Pain and Suffering

We run into this with part numbers and other places.  I’m sorry I haven’t a perfect log of where we run into this, but we can’t be the only ones with a problem here.

I have to count hits very carefully update these records individually instead of being able to edit all and change them wholesale.

Increases chances of errors and increases task time.

 

How should we be handling this in IFS Cloud?  We came from Apps9 and never had this issue.

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Abdul
Superhero (Partner)
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  • Superhero (Partner)
  • 260 replies
  • January 25, 2025

Hi ​@dbankston,

You need to enter your Object Ids as mentioned below.

=VS-07;=VS-06;=VS-03;=SE-01;=RC-03;=PU-56

 

Regards

Abdul Rehman

 


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  • Sidekick (Customer)
  • 27 replies
  • January 25, 2025

Even if it works, it’s awful, we shouldn’t have to teach everyone to use the = sign too.


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  • Sidekick (Customer)
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  • January 25, 2025

My thought would be, make the search not a begins with by default and allow us to add a tilde or percent sign if we want to start getting fuzzy.

The IFS Apps search was better.


Mathias Dahl
Superhero (Employee)
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  • Superhero (Employee)
  • 2881 replies
  • January 27, 2025

@dbankston 

I don't work with the search framework but I don't think they would change the default behavior just like that. It would benefit you but might perhaps have bad side effects for the majority of customers. If there is a chance this can be changed, there needs to be a system setting by which you can affect this. Perhaps you should create an idea about there in the Ideas section here on IFS Community?

If your users do the above often, it should not be hard to write a bookmarklet that, when given the string you had, puts on the clipboard a converted string. It's a bit of a hack but should work fine.

 


Mathias Dahl
Superhero (Employee)
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  • Superhero (Employee)
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  • January 27, 2025

@dbankston 

I decided to create a bookmarklet for you, and I just posted about it here:

https://community.ifs.com/document-management-docman-248/bookmarklets-but-how-can-we-make-these-ourselves-35247?postid=124283#post124283

Scroll to the bottom of my reply there, or search for "Transform a search expression" to find it.

One could make things even easier and allow the user to separate the values using a space character instead (at least I think it's a little bit easier and easier on the eyes). I'll leave that change as an exercise for the reader…

Good luck!

 


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  • Sidekick (Customer)
  • 27 replies
  • January 28, 2025

‘good luck’ is a great way to describe IFS Cloud in its current state.

 

I’ve submitted an idea to add a copy search string function to the column headers in Cloud.  You do whatever filtering then you can click the menu button on a column header and select ‘Copy Search String’ or something similar.

 

I’m so sick of being asked to submit ideas for your crowdsourced beta testing.  I’m just the maintenance SME with 30 some mines trying to use your system we were forced to upgrade to.  The things that are still bugs and getting fixed in say 25R1 that we’re reporting tell me that you don’t have strong functional people testing what you’re putting out.

 

 


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  • Sidekick (Customer)
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  • January 28, 2025

The cancel work task function doesn’t even work logically is a prime example of something we have to wait for 25R1 for.

 

 


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