This question still bothers me to this day. I find it hard to believe that IFS would implement this functionality and simply expect that every shop order would need to be tracked and updated manually. Please IFS Team, is there any other ways to deal with the discrepancy between what we see in the POs and what we see in the SOs? And if not, is there anything being worked on to solve or improve this situation? Best regards,Pizzo
Saman, I have a similar case in which APB acts oddly when scheduling the operation PREVIOUS to an Outside Operation. Can APB even do anything to outside operation Work Centers? Would it update the related Purchase Requisition when the previous operations is scheduled? thanks!
Hello, When Master Scheduling (MS Level 1 calculation) creates master schedule receipt, it actually creates the MS receipts into the tab Sub MS Receipts (and the main reason for this is max order lot size rule => system might need to generate more than one MS receipt per day) Anyway, when doing this we capture structure revision, structure alternate, routing revision and and routing alternate (using for example lot sized based structure rules). This is then used when MRP explodes Master Schedule receipts, to save valuable execution time for MRP engine. When MS Level 1 calculation runs, Structure Revisions and Structure Alternates etc, are refreshed outside Planning Time Fence (PTF). Look at my two yellow marked lines outside PTF. Here I have the same setting as you have. (Ignore values inside PTF, I was playing around here). As times goes by, my proposed MS receipts will roll inside PTF and become fixed MS receipts… and then, when they are inside PTF, we don’t refresh Structure Rev
Hello there,I would like to ask a complementary question to this old topic. In cases when I have mandatory control planes and I need to do a Rework shop order. Lets say that this rework can be done on a different Work Center than the ones which I already have a Control Plan set up. How do I proceed? Do I have to create a Control Plan for a one-time-thing or is there any other possibilities. Since this is a rework, it is quite obvious that the parts have to be controlled in a specific manner after the shop order is done. Any inputs on what the best practice here would be?As always, thanks for the valuable help!
We would love to hear from IFS employees if this is somehow possible. We suffer from the same issue here.
Hi! First, before I forgot to ask, which version do you run? It looks like Apps9 to me. The unconsumed forecast is calculated like this: Actual demand is consuming from the forecast columns ( 0 and 1). So in your case the demand on the 23rd is trying to find forecast on that date or an earlier date to consume from. But there are no forecast to consume in your example. System continues with the demand on 28th, still no available forecast to consume. … Moving forward… in the 15th October there is a demand of 4 which finds unconsumed forecast the 5th October. The unconsumed forecast is initially 8 but becomes 4 during this operation. Forecast Consumption happens prior to calculation of Master Schedule Receipts and calculation of Projected Onhand. Projected Onhand is basically calculated like this: Prevoius Projected Onhand - Demand - Unconsumed Forecast + Open Shop Order supply => temporary result. And if this temporary result goes negative, the level 1 calculation triggers a Master
@Guto I have never seen this error message before. In general I believe it should be allowed to start an operation without having issued material. When reporting completed or scrapped quantity for an operation with connected material system will issue (backflush) the material if not already issued, and when receiving the main product to stock system will validate that enough material has been issued to receive this quantity. However, no validation should happen when starting a clocking as far as I know. Thanks for the help Björn. Since this is still not working for us, do you know any other possibility to measure picking times? I would love to have a better Capacity overview of our logistics personell. Since our picking is made with a Picking list, I couldn't yet find a way to measure the required picking time for each Shop Order. Any tips are welcome!Thanks!
The shop order will be set to status Started when either some material has been issued and/or some operations has been reported (time and/or quantities). So if you report some time or quantity on an operation the status will be set to Started even if no material is issued. Hello BjörnI am trying to make this work at our company as well. Our goal is to collect data of how long we need to pick/issue materials for our shop order through a Shop Order Operation called “Conveyance”. The problem with that is that I cannot start the operation Conveyance if the Reserved Materials are not yet in Issued status. We get the following message in the shop floor workbench: Do you know how to solve this? Or is there a better way to track picking times? I was not able to find picking time data in the pick lists and that is why I though I could do this through an Operation and use the reported Labor Setup Time. Any help with this subject would be really helpful.Here is how my Routing is Set up:
Any updates on this topic? I have a similar case with some specific Part Numbers as well...
Hello Eric,Have you found any solution for this problem? We are currently having the same situation where our lead times are not as exact as we would like to inside our shop orders. Can anyone shine a light on this topic?
Hello ShawnBerk, I have tried using the “Reschedule Shop Orders by Work Center” but none of my “start dates” changed.To explain further what I would like to do is:I have several Shop Orders which are with status “Partially Reserved” due to shortage on some of its parts. I would like to apply the same effect as the “Update ESD According to Material Availability” function on several of them at the same time. However, I would like to do so only for some of the Shop Orders. Is that possible? Am I misunderstanding this functionality? Thanks in advance for the support!
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