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  • 26 October 2022
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Hi!

Question from a customer who is upgrading from APP9 to IFS Cloud. Is there a way to have the setting for Default Backflush ONLY to have affect in Shop Floor Workbench and NOT in Receive Shop Order manually?

The background for this question is that the customer has developed a way to work for a specific flow (injection molding) in APP9 where it is possible to set the Default backflush setting isolated to SFWB (via RMB properties => Default values for Approve operations). They do not want it to be marked by default in Manual Receive Shop Order but I haven’t found a way to prevent this in standard IFS Cloud if the Default setting is marked. It is not possible to have the Reserved/Issue Method for the components set to manual since the material is in fact backflushed when the operation time is reported when they receive info from their MES regarding how many parts that have been manufactured (every 15 mins). It can take between 4-72 hours before the parts are being received into stock (when the box is full) so the material has to be backflushed when the operation is reported to have a correct inventory balance. The problem is that components to issue can remain on the Shop Order when the part is to be received into stock, and if the operator would forget to unmark the backflush setting, the rest of the material (that has not been used) will be issued when the receipt is done.

This problem could probably be solved by a custom event, but I wanted to place the question since the design of Receive Shop Order has been redone in IFS Cloud and this could be an aspect that more users are affected by. You have to enter the Receive Shop Order Manually via an assistant where it is only possible to query for one order at a time. 

 

Best Regards

Eva 

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Best answer by Björn Hultgren 26 October 2022, 08:34

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Hi Eva,

Unfortunately there’s no setting available to control only the default value of Backflush when the receive assistant is launched from shop floor workbench. Technically it is the same assistant used when using manual receive from navigator as well as when receiving using approve from workbench.

Two questions though:

  • When reporting an operation quantity, the material linked to this operation is always backflushed (except with reserve/issue method = manual). So no need to select any backflush option for this?
  • Since the default backflush can be set per user ID, is it really the same user that needs different behavior when reporting from workbench vs manually receiving? 

I guess you can try exploring the options available using page designer and/or events. 

Finally a small tip when having to manually receiving several orders quickly. Search and select all shop orders to receive in the shop orders page. Click manual receive command. Now the receive assistant will loop over all shop orders without having to re-launch the assistant.

 

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Hi Björn and thanks a lot for your wise comments. :) Regarding question 1: True, I did not think about that and am not sure that the customer is aware either. Will discuss this further with them, it could also be that I don’t have all the details clear. Then the solution would be to have the Default Backflush setting set to No. Regarding question 2: To my understanding it is since the operators work in various places.

I actually looked at the Shop Orders page as an alternative way of working this morning and I cannot see that it shouldn’t work. Thanks for bringing it up.

BR /Eva

 

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