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BALINVROU- created out of nowhere

  • 12 October 2021
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Hi 

I have this strange behavior on a customer System. Whenever they create a distribution order the system creates a balinvrou on the receiving site. I have anlayzied the M10 with the M18 and they are matching perfectly without the balinvrou posting. This means i compared the MPL posting with the supplier invoice posting. Now this balinvrou comes in and creates a difference between M10 and M18. What we have discovered the amount of the balinvrou is always the amount of the Discount defined in the purchase order. When i check the supplier invoice the brut amount of the invoice and the purchase order are the same amount. here is the purchase order 

 

and here is the invoice (please note the invoice contains two purchase order). Please look at the first 3 invoice lines

 

 

I also tought there is something with the setup of the purchase part: selling site:

 

purchaseing site

 

 

Does anyone have an idea how this balinvrou gets created?

 

BR

Sophal

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There are several APP10 bugs submitted for this issue, Balinvrou incorrectly created.  What APP10 update are you on? 

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There are several APP10 bugs submitted for this issue, Balinvrou incorrectly created.  What APP10 update are you on? 

Hi Jabous

 

we are currently in update 10

 

Best Regards

Sophal

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HI @bytsophan 

 

Recently I had to deal with a same scenario. There are occasions where Balinvrou gets created incorrectly. Some solutions are still in progress to solve this problem and as per jabous there are several patches that have been released already. You should submit a support case to Distribution mentioning the same. 

But this explanation is to answer your question how and why a Balinvrou get created. In the ideal world the GRNI account should be balanced after fully invoicing. But if you are dealing with parts with prices with decimals, you have conversion factors involved, you do partial receipt or partial invoicing, then in the end they may still not be balanced and that is why we wanted to make sure that the GRNI account is always balances when the Closed date is set, and the record is no longer appearing in the GRNI report.

 

So, it is expected that the system can evaluate if there is still some remaining value that needs to be cleared at the time when a Closed Date is automatically set by the system for a given Purchase Receipt. New business event and transaction should be added to balance the account.

 

BALINVROU + Balancing invoice amount postings after rounding - Shortage Found - Debit M19 Credit M10

BALINVROU - Balancing invoice amount postings after rounding – Excess Found - Debit M10 Credit M20

 

Here we are supposed to use the + event whenever we find that M10 needs to be credited, since the value on M10/M14 is too little compared to M18, hence we see this as a shortage. And consequently, we should use the – event when M10 needs to be debited, since the value on M10/M14 is too much compared to M18, hence the excess.

 

Additionally, when there are no receipt postings at all, we earlier failed to identify which is the transaction currency. And we need to know which is the transaction currency to be able to create the correct supplier invoice postings and also to know how we should deal with the Balinvrou functionality. The Balinvrou transaction is expected to be created when a Purchase Receipt is Closed as a result of being fully invoiced and yet when analyzing all the postings affecting the GRNI account, there is still some unbalance. An unbalance that should be a result of the mathematical calculations that take place and where you may end up with some rounding difference due to how roundings are applied. So, this has nothing to do with parallel currency.

 

This happens since all the time we must round any calculated amount to 2 decimals in the application as it is the maximum no of decimals an amount can have.

 

Hope you got a better understanding regarding the issue.

 

Best Regards,

Peshala

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Hi Peshala 

Thanks for the explanation. I am aware of the balancing system of the M10/M14 with the balinvrou. thats why i dont understand why it is creating me the balinvrou since i have extracted all the M10 and M18 posting for the purchase order (MPL) and the supplier invoice (I voucher). I dont see any difference from the financial point of view. Maybe the receipt in the background is with a value with 4 decimals and the financial transaction is with 2 decimals and the system somehow compares them. But this is just a guess from me. I hope we get soon some solution.

 

Best Regards

Sophal

Peshala Gamage
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Hi @bytsophan

 

I agree with you,  that’s why I suggested you to submit a support case to Distribution product queue mentioning your issue along with the screen shots.

 

Best Regards,

Peshala.  

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