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We are currently running Apps 10 and ran into a few internally questions regarding capability check. Currently we use Inventory Order  as our Sourcing Option (Sales Part > General Tab). Using this sourcing option doesn’t allow for Automatic Capability Check (Inventory Part > Misc Part Info). 

The struggle with this is that our Customer Service team has to rely on Available to Promise (ATP) to run during the customer order line entry. If it pops up a certain message, they are responsible to then run Capability Check. The manual step seems odd, as why wouldn’t IFS just run Capability Check out of the box and review the whole Bill of Material rather than just the top level part. 

Our organization is trying to understand how to run Capability Check “easier” and to ensure we don’t rely on a manual step to run this and adjust the customer order line to the proper date.

Has anyone who been able to run Capability Check automatically or have a process in place where Capability Check will run for “auto processed orders” (e.g. EDI orders) or manually processed orders? 

Hi,

 

If you use Invent Order as the Sourcing Option and Manually Run Capability Check, it will just allow you to use Neither Reserve nor Allocate as the Capability check rule. It is just a simulation not a complete Capability check. That is why Sourcing option of invent Order and Automatic Capability check is not valid.

 

Further, if you use Capability check with DOP Order (or Shop order Supply) type, you’ll understand why we can’t use Invent Order as the supply type along with Capability Check.

Note: Since you are using Invent Order, I believe your parts are not configured.

 

Please check below setup.

Part Number      Part Type                            Lead Time           Parent Part                         Inventory part in stock

JAGATEST-PP     Purchase part                  10 days                 JAGATEST-MP1                100

JAGATEST-MP1 Manufacturing Part         1 days                   JAGATEST-MP2                 0

JAGATEST-MP2 Manufacturing part         1 days                                                                 0

 

When I add a Customer Order (Part No: JAGATEST-MP2) with Sourcing option as DOP Order for today 6/3/2021. The Capability check will run automatically and check Inventory Availability (If the parts are Netted, Inventory Part> Acquisition tab> DOP Netting field) and Reserve or allocate the component parts as per the Capability check rules (or omit it with Neither Reserve Nor Allocate).

Then Create an Interim order and let us know that the Order Completion date will be 6/6/2021, since it needs 2 days to proceed with Manufacturing parts (If no Netting another 10 days will be added for purchase the purchase part).

The Interim Order also create required DOP Headers, DOP Orders, Shop Orders and Purchase Orders in temporary tables when the capability check runs.

You can observe that once you Release your Customer Order. Because Releasing Customer Order will automatically Create, DOP Header, DOP Orders, Shop Orders and Purchase Orders (unlike without Capability check).

 

That is why Capability check need Sourcing Option to be DOP Order or Shop Order (When it is Shop Order it create Shop Orders for Manufacturing parts, Purchase orders for Purchase Parts in a temporary table).

If the Sourcing option is Invent Order, it can’t go through lower levels such as above. Because, it always considering Inventory Parts in Stock rather than an Order. But an Order can refer lower levels with used component parts.

 

My suggestion for you is, use Capability check in Inventory Part level. Use DOP Order as the Sourcing option in Sales part and most importantly use Netting in each and every inventory part (Inventory Part>Acquisition tab>DOP Netting field).

Then the Capability check will run along with Inventory part in stock consideration and lead time calculation.

 

Hope this is clear, notify me if you want further clarification.

 

Thanks,

Jagath

Thank you for the information. I have two questions - 

  • Will the interim order still happen with DOP, or will it see inventory and ship from there?
  • Also, if in process is seen, will this create DOP Orders, or stop at that level and consume in-process supply without creating DOP?

We are going to test out what you stated tomorrow to see if this is an option for us. Thank you again!

>Though Capability Check consider Inventory for components, It seems for the parent part it is not considering Inventory, it always create a DOP header. You can get it once the Interim Order has been created (Check the Net Qty in  Details tab of Interim Order).

However, if you think it is a good thing to check inventory (I do) you can add it as an idea or report it to IFS support.

>In process parts, nope those will not be considered as valid parts.

 

 

Thanks this was really helpful. One other question we have, as you seem pretty knowledge with Capability Check. 

We are moving the wanted delivery date out where it’s past the actual open supply date. We see that Capability Check sees the open supply for the FG. However, if there is a shop order or purchase order is for the Sub and the due date is inside the wanted delivery date window it seems that Capability Check doesn’t see it. Is this correct? If not, what could we be missing. 

I also have the same experience it is not checking open orders.

You can suggest that as an idea. It is a usefulfunctionality to have.

We can get it to see open order supply for the FG, but if you open supply for the sub or purchased raw it doesn't see it. In that case it always gives full lead time. Seems odd, assuming other customers have to have the same issue unless their business model is different. 

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