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ESRI integration


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Hi Community,

Our customer need to connect ESRI Arcgis with IFS 21R2 (Manager Cloud).

Do you have informations about how to do technical connection between IFS and ESRI ?

Do you have informations about functionnalities ?

Do we need specifics ESRI version ?

 

Best Regards,

Christophe


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Hi @Mathias Dahl, can you confirm that ESRI integration works properly with IFS cloud on Managed cloud ? Maybe you can share with @Christophe BUSSI documentation on how to do the setup ? 

Thanks in advance. 

Regards.
Sebastien 

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We have implemented this feature in 21R2. But somehow it has been stopped working in 22R1 and 22R2 tracks. (Still working in 21R2). We will have a look and provide the fix in 22R1 SU9 and 22R2 SU2.

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Hi Christophe first steps achieved. ;-) it looks very promising for the needs of operations at our customer.

There is still stuff to do to have it work properly. 

@Mathias Dahl can you give a hand in solving the issue encountered by Christophe ? 

Thanks very much.

BR 

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> Hi @Mathias Dahl, can you confirm that ESRI integration works properly with IFS cloud on Managed cloud ?

I can confirm that it works. That being said, how do you define "properly"? We would need to know more about what the customer wants, how they want to use GIS, etc. 

Does the customer use ArcGIS from before? If yes, then they probably have people that knows a lot about it, and they will be a good resource for you. If not, you need to be prepared to learn some ArcGIS in the implementation team. And there is no way around that. It’s not hard, but you cannot just guess how it works.

> Maybe you can share with @Christophe BUSSI documentation on how to do the setup ?

Sahan already linked to a good entry point above. From that page you can access very detailed information on the various concepts of the GIS integration. I would recommend that you read through all of it, but especially "GIS Concepts" which is linked from the page.

There are a number of ongoing GIS implementations, do you know about them? I would recommend you reach out to the people working with them as well as reading the documentation, for knowledge sharing. I’ll ping some people I know has worked or is working with the GIS integration here:

@Sean Ingram @Frank Sveen @dadude @sajithmendis @Kulunu Abeysinghe 

Good luck!

 

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@Christophe BUSSI 

 

Can you check the below link if this provided any guidance.

https://docs.ifs.com/ifsclouddocs/21r1/ProcessModels/Process_Model/GISMapObjectConnection.htm

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Many Thanks @Mathias Dahl for your support. @Christophe BUSSI can you take on with the team. I’m sure the people tagged in the discussion will be gladful to help you managing you request.

regards.

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Copying from our private conversation:

> We want no connection so I will keep the last entry.

Sorry, I did not get that. What do you mean with "no connection"?

> Concerning the second point, it is normal, our customer created this ervice without security access.

Then there is no need to configure the proxy unless they also want to use that link/connect feature in GIS Map. Do they want to do that?

> Now GIS Map ask me to connect, we progress :-)

Do you mean log in? If you configured the proxy with a username and password, plus set "Use Proxy" to True in Layer Mapping, you should not be asked to log in.

That being said, again, no need for a username and password if the map layers are public.

> I created a Layer, I see it ont GIS Map but notking appear.

Can you share a screenshot with us?

Thanks!
 

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Thanks!

So, for the linking issue AND “not showing information in the dialog” issue, the reason was the layer ID being part of the URL.

Good change then! :-)

 

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Hi,

You're looking for the attribute inspector which looks "inside" Esri. It's one of the tools we have in the console/tool bar to the right. I'm unsure if that works in your version of IFS Cloud or not though, but should be easy for you just to try it out and see.

An alternative is to sync some of the data in Esri do IFS in some way, at regular intervals or when the data changes.
 

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You need to add some GIS object configuration:

Before you do that, you need to enable the OrderQuotation for GisintConnections:

If it is not there, click New to create it:

Then, on your layer, you need to set the LU Name to OrderQuatation such that the map knows how to get the configuration.

 

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Search for “label” here:

https://docs.ifs.com/ifsclouddocs/23r1/ObjectPositioningGISMap/ActivityDefineLayerMapping.htm?StandAlone=true

 

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Hi @Nethmini Kosvinna 

This Feature has there from 21r2 GA onwards. 

Thanks and Regards,

Jitharie.

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It's a long time since we added that and I think it has been tested very little, perhaps not at all. It might not even work anymore 😮 Even though I haven't tested this, it looks like the configuration is correct. I suggest you file a proper support issue about this, such that we can take a proper look at it.

What's the error, by the way, does it say anything that can give us a clue?
 

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PS. Apart from this forum, there is also an internal Workplace group about GIS: https://oneifs.workplace.com/groups/gismapsbim 

It does not help Christophe, of course, but it's a place where you can discuss with other people who knows GIS at IFS.

 

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Hi,

I deleted all GIS connections and when I click the object on the map nothing happen.I haven’t a dialog box to link GIS Object and IFS Object. (IFS Managed Cloud, 21.2.10)

Shoud I to configure something more ? 

 

For Layer ID, I chose numbers like 100,110 and 120 to call my 3 layers.

 

Regards, Christophe

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Hi, I added data manually in GIS Connections because it is the only one screen where I found IFSID field. So I have to configure GIS Object Connection, right ? But how to configure it ? do you have print screen ? Regards, Christophe

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Hi, what's the status here? Is it about how to connect IFS and Esri? Technically it happens when the IFS ID (the number 10, 20 and 30 as per above) is saved in the IFSID field in the feature layer in Esri. This data can be migrated by automated means or the user can connect/link the objects by clicking on the map and using the LOV that should appear.
 

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Did you add the data in GIS Connections manually? If you did, then it you might not get the “connection dialog” that you should. You should only add data there manually or by migration/scripts if you also add the IFS ID in Esri. The connection/link dialog should do both for you.

 

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I deleted all GIS connections and when I click the object on the map nothing happen.I haven’t a dialog box to link GIS Object and IFS Object. (IFS Managed Cloud, 21.2.10)

 

I realized I told you information there that does not apply to the Aurena client. In our old client (IEE) you could just left-click an object to get the dialog to open. Now you right-click and chose the option there to connect/link (I don't remember the exact words) the object. Try that.

As for the layer IDs, those are the numbers after the slash in the layer URL. They should be kept in the Layer ID field. Not sure how you could even save those URLs to be honest 🙂 (I tested now and I can also keep the layer ID in the URL field, some validation must be broken there) And I also don't understand how it can work.

I suggest you "move" the layer IDs to where they should be.

Here is a screen shot of how it should look:

Here is where you find the layer IDs (it’s the numbers in brackets to the right):

Hope this helps.

 

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Hi @Mathias Dahl 

is it possible to have ESRI LABEL (info text on polygon) ?

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Object link is unavailable. 

Do you have an idea about what ?

 

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Not sure. The only idea I have is that the map thinks the layer is read-only/not editable and decides to hide the connect/link command.

Did you remove the layer IDs from the URL and put it in the Layer ID field instead?

 

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Hi,

I modifiied Layer ID, and it seems to be ok NOW !

I continue my tests, THANKS VERY MUCH @Mathias Dahl  FOR YOUR HELP.

Regards, Christophe

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Hi,

Configuration is operational now. We linked IFS Object with ESRI Object.

I have a new question : 

Our customer added somes informations on his map like this.

 

And on IFS we have

is it possible to have the same details ?

Regards,

Christophe

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Hi @Jitharie ,
Customer is in 21R2 SU11. Could you please confirm from which SU onwards this functionality was implemented in 21R2 ?

Thanks & Best Regards,

Nethmini

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